This episode of The Claim Game, "Accessing the Board," features an insightful interview with Cathy Gilbert, an expert with over 30 years of experience in the healthcare industry, including leadership roles at major national payers like Magellan and Beacon Health Options. Cathy shares her unique perspective from the payer's side of the table, demystifying the complex and often frustrating world of credentialing, contracting, and fee negotiations for private practice owners. She explains that while the process can seem like a "black hole," there are rules, and understanding them is key.
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Credentialing & Contracting Demystified: Insider Guidance for Providers
Credentialing: Applying to a Network and Contract Negotiation
Aug 29, 2025

The Claim Game
The Claim Game podcast, hosted by Jeremy and Kathryn Zug, is designed to help healthcare providers navigate the complexities of revenue cycle management (RCM). Each episode aims to cut through confusion by breaking down complex billing processes and sharing real-world solutions. The podcast uses a "game board" metaphor to simplify the RCM landscape, offering strategies and practical tips to help practices "win" at revenue cycle management. Jeremy and Kathryn draw on their extensive experience to empower providers to take control of their revenue, turning claim denials into deposits and allowing them to focus more on patient care. The podcast covers key territories of billing, such as credentialing, patient registration, eligibility & benefits, payment posting, aging follow-up, and claim submission, with the ultimate goal of providing clarity in a confusing, frustrating, and outdated industry.
The Claim Game podcast, hosted by Jeremy and Kathryn Zug, is designed to help healthcare providers navigate the complexities of revenue cycle management (RCM). Each episode aims to cut through confusion by breaking down complex billing processes and sharing real-world solutions. The podcast uses a "game board" metaphor to simplify the RCM landscape, offering strategies and practical tips to help practices "win" at revenue cycle management. Jeremy and Kathryn draw on their extensive experience to empower providers to take control of their revenue, turning claim denials into deposits and allowing them to focus more on patient care. The podcast covers key territories of billing, such as credentialing, patient registration, eligibility & benefits, payment posting, aging follow-up, and claim submission, with the ultimate goal of providing clarity in a confusing, frustrating, and outdated industry.Listen on
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